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What, 12 Or 28 Bore?

Discussion in 'Shotguns (SGC)' started by GB@|GB, May 22, 2022.

  1. rich79

    rich79 No deep or funny comment here

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    That ship keeps coming back around every 10-15yrs but nobody really gets on it, I'd imagine because a light 12 & heavy 20b loads overlap each other, plus they're expensive cartridges, I don't dislike 16b but does it really offer an advantage?
     
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    No it is doesn't offer anything for exactly those reasons you highlighted. But when has that ever stopped marketing, especially in the US?
     
  3. Blue BSA

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    Talking of new trends I do note that Mossberg now have a variant of the 500 specifically built for those short cartridge.
     
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    Thing is in America the shotgun is probably the most versatile firearm you can own!
    With the right load you can use it for home defense (lethal or non lethal), any small vermin, slugs on deer & bear, if you moved out there its probably the first gun you'd buy.
    But over here its a different story, I think if you can handle a 12b weight and recoil then there's no point in the others.
     
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    There are reasons why the powers that be took more than 3 shot off SGC and made their firearms status a bit unclear. The hi-capacity pump or semi-auto shotty is probably the most potent close in weapon there is....... I do look with some envy at their 18-inch barrelled pump actions.
     
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    Irish Tom the Punt gun. over 1 gauge. Repotted to be able to take down 50 to 100 ducks a time.







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  7. Chris888

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    12 bore cheaper to buy cartridges for and a huge variety as well. Light or heavy loads. Numerous guns to pick from. 9mm for rats.
     
  8. General Grievous

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    12 bore with a kickeez or similar and 21g loads, all the way.

    The physics is straightforward, action and reaction are equal and opposite and force equals mass x acceleration, so the acceleration into your shoulder is less if you increase the guns mass. If you lower the forward momentum by going down to 21gram lower speed loads you win twice. Clearly, you have to balance that with carrying the thing around but unless you’re rough shooting, that’s what your gun slip is for.
    All that being said, I’ve got the most stunning Croots slip and cartridge bag and they’ve never been anywhere other than the back of my (crap) car or our under stairs cupboard. I just like nice kit even though it is illogical.
    I would go to a clay ground and have a play with a few guns and carts.
    Good luck.

    GG
     

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